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Title: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: valium123 on August 30, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
I am facing the usual problem "The ordinal 200 could not be located in the dynamic link library C:\Windows\AppPatch\AcGenral.dll" while installing masm32 on windows 8. I tried searching for a solution but haven't found one yet. All I see is people posting links to other posts which direct you to other posts still. I want a definite solution to this problem.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: hutch-- on August 30, 2014, 01:30:11 AM
I am only running up to Win7 64 so I cannot personally help you but I know other folks have solved the problem. MASM32 is Win32 compatible but not necessarily Win8.? compatible.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: qWord on August 30, 2014, 01:40:24 AM
valium123,
as quick soulution you can extract (with WinRAR, WinZip, ...) the masm32-folder manually from the installer, place it in the root directory and then run the batch file \masm32\m32lib\build.bat. For extracting the folder and running the batch file you might need to turn off your AV / heuristic scanner.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: GoneFishing on August 30, 2014, 01:45:34 AM
I've seen such errors while installing MASM32 on Windows 8 / 8.1 . The best  solution is just  to let the installation continue as it goes despite possible problems with some DLLs ( it's better to remember their names though ) . Finally I had got fully functional MASM32 package and never had any need in AcGeneral's ordinals .


Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: Vortex on August 30, 2014, 03:28:04 AM
AcGenral.dll is a member of the files managing application compatibility.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: Gunther on August 30, 2014, 04:25:57 AM
Hi Erol,

Quote from: Vortex on August 30, 2014, 03:28:04 AM
AcGenral.dll is a member of the files managing application compatibility.

so the error message can be ignored under Windows 8/8.1?

Gunther
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: valium123 on August 30, 2014, 05:48:08 AM
Thanks ill try these and tell you. Btw I tried to ignore the error messages but they keep coming and i have to end the program through task manager.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: hutch-- on August 30, 2014, 03:12:15 PM
I deliberately remain ignorant of Win8.??? but I imagine that you should be able to make a technical users profile that has all of the crap turned off so that either AV scanners or the OS security settings do not interfere with the installation. This installation does not write to the OS at all, it changes nothing and does not steal file extensions from other development environments but it comes at the price that you must have a machine set up so that it can install without interference.

My Win7 64 run the standard Microsoft Essentials that is upgraded every day or so and it does not interfere with any of my setups at all. The main difference is I have UAC turned off and rely on the firewall and AV scanner to supply whatever protection Microsoft have to offer but I also have the NAT on my router set up so that nothing gets through from the outside.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: valium123 on August 31, 2014, 08:09:37 PM
I just tried what qWord suggested and extracted the it in  C drive but when I run build.bat this error comes up:
"The system cannot find the path specified. Assembly Error."
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: dedndave on August 31, 2014, 09:12:18 PM
i think the error may be safely ignored
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: hutch-- on September 01, 2014, 02:20:52 AM
I don't use Win8 but you can read this URL to turn off UAC on your computer.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5509-user-account-control-uac-change-settings-windows-8-a.html
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: valium123 on September 01, 2014, 03:45:56 AM
It can't be ignored as none of the programs are running. 'Fatal' errors keep coming up like LINK ERROR etc. So fed up with this... :(
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: dedndave on September 01, 2014, 03:50:26 AM
don't let it get you frustrated   :t

if all else fails, install it on another machine, then copy the masm32 folder
it makes no modifications to other folders or the registry, so it's a benign install
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: qWord on September 01, 2014, 04:05:37 AM
Quote from: valium123 on August 31, 2014, 08:09:37 PM
I just tried what qWord suggested and extracted the it in  C drive but when I run build.bat this error comes up:
"The system cannot find the path specified. Assembly Error."
Try it with opening a new command window, switch into the folder m32lib (cd C:\masm32\m32lib) and then start make.bat.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: hutch-- on September 01, 2014, 09:41:40 AM
Its reasonably simple, your OS configuration is blocking the installation. MASM32 is a development tool, not a browsing and email program and to use development tools you must be able to run executable files without interference and both read and write to disk to create the files you need. Its evident from what you have posted that the libraries were not built and that can only be from one problem, your OS settings OR your AV scanner is silently killing off a range of operations.

Now here is the current suggestion, make a new user profile from your control panel that you use for development. Go into your Control panel settings in the new profile and turn UAC OFF. Set your AV scanner with exceptions for the development tools while leaving your firewall working correctly. If you are using some crappy after market AV scanner, get rid of it and use a decent one that does not misbehave so that you can safely run properly written technical tools.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: valium123 on September 01, 2014, 09:59:08 PM
I tried installing it again by running the setup. I kept clicking 'ok' when the errors popped up until they disappeared and rest of the setup resumed. Now   I have the software running on my computer. :)
I tried running one of the programs from the tutorials folder but the console window just open and closes in a flash. I'm a beginner lol.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: Gunther on September 01, 2014, 10:11:51 PM
Hi  valium123,

Quote from: valium123 on September 01, 2014, 09:59:08 PM
I tried running one of the programs from the tutorials folder but the console window just open and closes in a flash. I'm a beginner lol.

start the program via the command line.

Gunther
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: valium123 on September 01, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Ok thanks it's working now... So I guess the solution is to just ignore the error messages and keep pressing OK....
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: Gunther on September 01, 2014, 10:35:04 PM
Hi valium123,

Quote from: valium123 on September 01, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Ok thanks it's working now... So I guess the solution is to just ignore the error messages and keep pressing OK....

that's good news. Go forward.

Gunther
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: splegrand on November 01, 2014, 11:52:46 AM
Looks like UAC or AV doesn't matter in this case (still got error with both off). It appears the messages can be clicked through without harm? Does MASM32 export DLL functions using ordinals? Or is this message by Windows completely false?

Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: dedndave on November 01, 2014, 01:22:12 PM
there has been an ordinal pop up that seems inconsequential (201 i think)
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: Vortex on November 01, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: splegrand on November 01, 2014, 11:52:46 AM
Looks like UAC or AV doesn't matter in this case (still got error with both off). It appears the messages can be clicked through without harm? Does MASM32 export DLL functions using ordinals? Or is this message by Windows completely false?

Hi splengrand,

Welcome to the forum.

The Masm32 installer does not build any DLLs.
Title: Re: Errors installing MASM on windows 8 64 bit
Post by: Gunther on November 02, 2014, 12:56:58 AM
Hi splegrand,

welcome to the forum.

Gunther