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Windows Graphics Programming / Re: Moving things around the s...

Last post by zedd - April 25, 2025, 12:52:00 PM

So maybe I should concentrate on "everything"?

Work on getting the double buffering working first. Once done, then you can do the boundary checks, and handle the resource issues (source of gdi leaks), imo.

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Windows Graphics Programming / Re: Moving things around the s...

Last post by zedd - April 25, 2025, 12:47:50 PM

I will also add that however you are selecting the transistor and moving it around, that part indeed is working nicely. Congrats. 
I had tried something similar years ago, but with piss poor results. 

I think I could do something similar now, if needed, though -with better results.   

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Windows Graphics Programming / Re: Moving things around the s...

Last post by NoCforMe - April 25, 2025, 12:46:40 PM

Question: Does using double buffering mean that I draw everything to a separate buffer (my AltDC) and then copy that entire thing over to the display DC?

Yes, everything.

I get artifacts when the bitmap is dragged past the top or left

Yes, shoulda warned you 'bout that. There's no code to check for boundary conditions (yet). Makes a mess.

So maybe I should concentrate on "everything"?

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#4

Windows Graphics Programming / Re: Moving things around the s...

Last post by sinsi - April 25, 2025, 12:27:49 PM

Question: Does using double buffering mean that I draw everything to a separate buffer (my AltDC) and then copy that entire thing over to the display DC?

Yes, everything.

I get artifacts when the bitmap is dragged past the top or left
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Windows Graphics Programming / Re: Moving things around the s...

Last post by zedd - April 25, 2025, 12:13:54 PM

This is how I would do it... and so far works for me.
If you have the client area already from GetClientRect, you can use that here instead of ps.rcPaint...

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        .elseif uMsg == WM_ERASEBKGND          ; adding this helps greatly with flicker issues
          mov eax, 1
          ret
        .elseif uMsg == WM_PAINT
          invoke BeginPaint, hWin, addr ps
          mov hDC, eax                          ; window client area DC
          invoke CreateCompatibleDC, hDC
          mov memDC, eax                        ; memory DC

          invoke CreateCompatibleBitmap, hDC, ps.rcPaint.right, ps.rcPaint.bottom
          mov hBmp, eax                        ; compatible bitmap handle
          invoke SelectObject, memDC, hBmp
          mov hBmp_old, eax

          ;; ###########################################################

          ;; in this example do all of your drawing here to memory DC (memDC) not to window DC (hDC)



          ;; ###########################################################
          ;; bitblt memory Dc to window DC
          invoke BitBlt, hDC, 0, 0, ps.rcPaint.right, ps.rcPaint.bottom, memDC, 0, 0, SRCCOPY
          invoke SelectObject, memDC, hBmp_old
          invoke DeleteObject, hBmp
          invoke DeleteDC, memDC

          invoke EndPaint, hWin, addr ps


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#6

Windows Graphics Programming / Re: Moving things around the s...

Last post by NoCforMe - April 25, 2025, 12:08:50 PM

For starters, you have a gdi leak...

No doubt. Let's not worry about that for the moment. That's not the problem.

Also, double buffering would indeed help.

I'm going to read up on it next thing.
Well, a quick read showed ... basically the code I have now.

Question: Does using double buffering mean that I draw everything to a separate buffer (my AltDC) and then copy that entire thing over to the display DC? Because I'm not doing that exactly.

#7

Windows Graphics Programming / Re: Moving things around the s...

Last post by zedd - April 25, 2025, 12:04:17 PM

For starters, you have a gdi leak...

Also, double buffering would indeed help.

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ALso that white rectangle with border appears sometimes when moving the transistor around.

[at their new positions]

#8

Windows Graphics Programming / Moving things around the scree...

Last post by NoCforMe - April 25, 2025, 11:54:11 AM

Another project with problems.

I'm trying to learn how to move things around the screen with the mouse, using GDI.
Previously I was moving child controls around, for my DialogGen on-screen dialog editing program, so I pretty much know how to do that (although there are still problems with that scheme).

This time I'm moving other things around. Mainly bitmaps at this point.
I'm able to move them pretty well, but there are problems. Mainly flicker. Actually pretty horrible flicker.

(Use the attached program and move the NPN transistor around and see what happens.)

For the time being I'd like to keep this on a conceptual level and proceed without posting any code. (I'll be happy to do that later.) This isn't so much a problem with coding as it is with design, and with understanding how the OS works with graphics and what its limitations are.

What I'm doing is this:

• Creating a client window (using CreateWindowEx())
• Creating a memory DC from that window to use for drawing into which I'm calling AltDC:
• Using CreateCompatibleDC() to get a memory DC
• Using CreateCompatibleBitmap() to get a bitmap the size of the client window's display DC
• Selecting that bitmap into AltDC so the memory DC is the same size as the display DC

OK, now that I have a memory DC, I'm doing this:

• When the program starts, I draw all my "objects" on the display DC, through WM_PAINT. This includes the blue rectangle, the big text and the bitmap. (So far AltDC is just blank, set to the background color.)
• When the user clicks on the bitmap (determined through hit-testing), I draw the selection box (dotted line) around the bitmap; the bitmap is now considered "selected".
• If the user holds down the left button and moves the mouse, here's where things get interesting:
• I go through the list of "objects" and I draw all of them except the bitmap to AltDC; this is my "clean slate" to use later
• I draw the selection box around the bitmap to the display DC
• I draw the bitmap to the display DC, at the current position
• As the user continues moving the mouse, things get really interesting:
• For each move, I first restore the image underneath the bitmap, copying just the bitmap's rectangle from AltDC (which has the "clean slate" before I drew the bitmap)
• I then draw the selection box and the bitmap at their new positions on the display DC

As you can see this works, but at a very high price. If you move the mouse at any speed above s-l-o-w, it flickers badly.

Any ideas here? I'm pretty sure I'm doing what I'm doing correctly, so far as coding goes. In other words, I don't think this is a matter of bugs. More a case of poor use of resources.

Am I doing too much moving of stuff between DCs? is that what's causing the flicker?
I was hoping that by only copying a small part of AltDC to the display for each mouse move that I'd be avoiding too much processing.

Should I be doing some kind of double buffering? (Not even sure how that works, to be honest.)

Any better way to do what I'm trying to do here?

#9

16 bit DOS Programming / Re: Problem With Reading Keybo...

Last post by NoCforMe - April 25, 2025, 06:33:41 AM

Maybe 16-bit coding is not for you either

It used to be. Wrote a lot of .com programs back in the day. Device drivers and TSRs too.
I have some residual interest in it, that's all.

#10

16 bit DOS Programming / Re: Problem With Reading Keybo...

Last post by zedd - April 25, 2025, 06:16:53 AM

Cmon David, don't get your knickers in a twist. 

My first post here was a helpful suggestion, not a demand nor any type of reprimand that you should have conducted a search yourself. My second post was in response to your reaction to that post.

So what are you going on about?