I'll be buying a new computer...

[zedd151]

Well, part of my order already arrived. But not the laptop yet. Just a new mouse. Been using a corded mouse after the old mouse bit the dust.

I had told my sister that I bought a new laptop; she started complaining about me wasting my money, after she had given me her old laptop. She just doesn't understand just how terrible that broken thing was.    The joys of living with family. 

I had been eyeing a couple of refurbished i5's and i7's that I did not even mention after her reaction to my laptop purchase. I am leaning towards the i7, btw. I had known for some time, that I wanted a different computer than I already have. It works, but otherwise rather sluggish in performance.
I had seen a couple of refurbished i9's but those are out of my price range, even the refurbished ones. You'd think they were made of gold.

[daydreamer]

Nice zedd,if the new computer shows its non sluggish and very fast,hope that doesnt mean you lose interest in asm?:(
Magnus

[zedd151]

Nice zedd,if the new computer shows its non sluggish and very fast,hope that doesnt mean you lose interest in asm?:(
Magnus

What? I'm always working on something in assembly, although I don't always post everything I am working on. 

[zedd151]

Laptop finally arrived. A few things I am not happy about it.
While I knew it came with Windows 11  on it...

I hate right clicking a file just to open another menu to rename or delete a file.

What the hell is up with a start menu button in the friggin' middle of the task bar??? Years of muscle memory have been trained to go to the left side of the task bar.
Oh yeah, upon setup, it would not let me continue the setup without entering Microsoft account info, no "skip for now", or "I'll do it Later" or similar option. 

It is highly doubtful that I can find drivers for Window 7 for this "thing" unfortunately. I could probably learn to either work with this, or better, Windows 10. At least I am quite familiar with all of the unpleasantries of Windows 10. The other unpleasantness that Windows 11 introduces is hardly welcome.

The laptop itself seems to work okay, apart from the awful experience known as Windows 11. 

My next box will most definitely be somewhat older hardware (well not too old), that I can run Windows 7 on and that drivers are obtainable for.

This laptop is mostly for my use on the back porch, since my ancient iPad is less and less useful for anything other than trolling browsing the forum here with. I would like to also write some code while out here, too. And be able to test it. 

Anyway, like it or not (meaning myself), I finally have a new laptop. 
Later this evening I am going to put Windows 7 on it (on another partition, keeping 11) to see if 7 runs on it without any troubles, If so, I will ditch Windows 11 altogether. 

Right now, the laptop is um still downloading and installing a gaziggabytes of updates....

[sinsi]

Old menues

reg add "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32" /ve /f

Taskbar: Settings > Personalization > Taskbar > Taskbar behaviours . Taskbar alignment

[NoCforMe]

I'm rooting for Windows 7 working on that thing.
Let us know.

[zedd151]

I bought a piece of shit!!! It supposedly finished all the updates and rebooted. I came back into the house and the windows 11 login screen was up. Under My name it says "Sign In". I click that, then a dark grey Dialog Box opens with nothing in it, The Title says "Microsoft (plus something or another , Id forgotten it already) Then the dialog disappears (without logging me in) and it leaves me at log in screen. I cannot get into windows on this thing. There is no CD/DVD drive, it does not apparently accept a USB bootable device either.
I searched online and found info for this model to do a "Reset" which is supposed to either do a fresh install from the cloud, or a soft reset by only removing the user account and files.
...
The way to do that is to press the shift key and then click "restart" you are supposed to be presented with the options and then, The reset process should then commence as soon as you set which option you want.

So, I tries that, but guess what? Windows throws me a BSOD. It reboots back to the login screen just fine though... but absolutely nothing else - kind of like in a loop. Login screen --> dialog box --> login screen, etc., etc.

So now I am out that *almost* $300, unless I can get a refund through amazon. The trouble with that is that there is a hefty fee to send it back to China from what my sister had told me. She had wanted to return something else a while back, when she learned of the hefty shipping fee (to china). Would almost make it not worth it to even bother, if it's more than 30% what I paid for it.

Anyway, I am no idiot when it comes to computers+Installing operating systems. But every single thing I have tried, to boot into a recovery environment with, has failed.   

I have just spent the better part of 4 hours screwing with this damn thing. I'm done with it.
I'll just take and use my sisters broken hand-me-down, and cherish it. The onl;y good thing out of all of this is that I had just learnt a lesson that I really should have known - if it seems to good to be true... it usually is. 

I will try to get a hold of amazon tomorrow - before I take a hammer to this darned thing.

I have a couple other things I want to try first... but the hammer does sound like a good idea at the moment, so I'll play with it a little bit more in the morning after I get some sleep. Maybe I'll have a profound thought by then, and maybe a solution.
It would be real easy if it had a real internal hard drive, but I really think it is one of those soldered in types (I might take the screwdriver to it to find out). It does have the capacity for a sata SSD, but it won't boot from that either - I have tried that. I am thinking that anything it boots from must use UEFI. I didn't see any "legacy" settings while I was poking around in the BIOS, only UEFI related junk. That's all for now.

[NoCforMe]

My condolences, brother.
Maybe, just maybe some clever maneuver will let you get in there, who knows?

[sinsi]

I didn't see any "legacy" settings while I was poking around in the BIOS, only UEFI related junk.

Look for something called CSM, that's the new acronym for legacy.
Secure Boot is another one to disable.

[zedd151]

Look for something called CSM, that's the new acronym for legacy.

If thats there, I didn't see it anywhere. 

Secure Boot is another one to disable.

That one, I did try. From advice on another site.

Btw, The BSOD Error code: DRIVER VERIFIER DMA VIOLATION.

That BSOD btw, only occurs when trying to reset the laptop.

A quick search for that error gives some solutions. But all require to be done from within windows. 

[stoo23]

Damn, that's Sad and obviously bloody annoying to hear 

You perhaps don't want to hear about things like this (after the fact) but a friend recently purchased a Re-Furbished ex corporate HP Laptop (admittedly only an i5), but it came with a 1 Terabyte SSD and 8 gig ram (since updated to 16 gig, for somewhere between $300 to $400, and honestly looks like it has never been used !!

Came with Win 10 Pro installed I believe,.. although I might be wrong.

Is there anything On Line about any similar issues with other perhaps non Chinese laptops and Win 11 ???
Thinking of all the time I'd venture we have ALL spent 'messing' with various MS OS versions, that almost sounds like an OS issue,.... might be wrong ofcourse 

[zedd151]

that almost sounds like an OS issue,.... might be wrong ofcourse 

Well, the login fails yes. Well, maybe. This is not a well known name brand. Very questionable, really.  "OTVOC" is the brand name. lol, hence the very reasonable price.

But the reset issue is all hardware issues, and no fault of Microsoft. And I have tried everyway til tuesday to try to get this thing to boot anything. CD/DVD bootable media, USB SSD, USB Flash drive. Nothing, nada, zilch.

Its not the end of the world for me, thogh. I still have two identical desktop boxes, and my sisters hand-me-down brokish laptop. It works but has physical damage to one of the hinges. (Have to handle it very gently to avoid severing/damaging the screen wiring, and WIFI antenna)  Makes it less portable that way, besides having a battery that dont hold a charge.

I just wanted to buy myself something new, with my own money. So much for a 'bargain'.

[zedd151]

Damn, that's Sad and obviously bloody annoying to hear 

You perhaps don't want to hear about things like this (after the fact) but a friend recently purchased a Re-Furbished ex corporate HP Laptop (admittedly only an i5), but it came with a 1 Terabyte SSD and 8 gig ram (since updated to 16 gig, for somewhere between $300 to $400, and honestly looks like it has never been used !!

sweet. Funny thing you mentioned it was an i5. I was also looking at some refurbished boxes, i5's and i7's specifically. There are some nice deals to be had. I wish I had gotten one of those instead, but I did also want a relatively inexpensive laptop for portability, to use on the back porch. I hadn't treated myself to anything new in a few years.

Is there anything On Line about any similar issues with other perhaps non Chinese laptops and Win 11 ???

Its all Chinese, or at least made or assembled in china anymore. That was actually part of my rationale for buying this cheapo laptop. I figured it is probably built/assembled in a factory that also does the high dollar name brands.

[sinsi]

But all require to be done from within windows

Safe mode?

[sinsi]

Is that the laptop with the N5100 CPU? That's an Intel Celeron running at 1.1GHz