Masm 64 bit

[anta40]

How is it possible to create a portable executable that uses different APIs
in LINUX-WIN-MAC...?

I think what Bogdan meant is Solar assembler itself (not the executables compiled with it) are able to run on Windows, Linux, OSX,...

[Vortex]

Hi frktons,

Probably, I should be more clear :

Solar Assembler can create portable executables for Windows without the usage of a linker.

[Gunther]

Erol,

Hi frktons,

Probably, I should be more clear :

Solar Assembler can create portable executables for Windows without the usage of a linker.

that's true, I did try it and it works fine. The 32 bit Linux version seems to work, too; one needs the ld or gcc for linking. But the 64 bit Linux version is a problem, because I can't re-compile it; the linker brings an error, because it's a 32 bit object file.

Gunther

[frktons]

Hi frktons,

Probably, I should be more clear :

Solar Assembler can create portable executables for Windows without the usage of a linker.

You mean if you assemble a program on windows it is portable on windows
itself? Or you can compile it in Linux/OSX/... with some parameters and it
can run on windows as well?
In the first case it is quite a normal behaviour, in the second one it'd be a
revolution in assembly programming world.
Many assemblers today have a version for linux, one for windows, one for
OSX etc... We speak about portable "sources" that can be assembled on
different system, and the assemblers take care of linking the appropriate DLL
from the system. This is already a big step forward towards portability,
it makes assembler look like C or other portable HLLs.

Erol,

that's true, I did try it and it works fine. The 32 bit Linux version seems to work, too; one needs the ld or gcc for linking. But the 64 bit Linux version is a problem, because I can't re-compile it; the linker brings an error, because it's a 32 bit object file.

Gunther

Again it is a crypted way of explaining things for me, and I still don't understand.

So you have assembled a program on linux and it works on windows as well?
What kind of Linux it was? Where you using Wine or an emulator, or a simple
linux "console"?

[Gunther]

Hi Frank,

Again it is a crypted way of explaining things for me, and I still don't understand.

So you have assembled a program on linux and it works on windows as well?
What kind of Linux it was? Where you using Wine or an emulator, or a simple
linux "console"?

Definitely: no. I've to clearify some misunderstandings and misinterpretation. What Erol means is that: With SolAsm you don't need a seperate linker (MS link, Polink etc.) to build the PE, because the Windows version has a built in linker. The resulting program runs only under Windows, of course. Sol Assembler has a small built in ressource compiler, too.

It can make output formats for 16/32/64 bit Windows, 32/64 bit Linux and 32 bit Macho (MacOS). Bogdan provides pre-compiled images for every operating system, which you can compile with the appropriate gcc to the running assembler for your prefered platform. I think that the behaviour (command line switches, syntax etc.) under the different systems is the same, because it's Sol Assembler for a specific operating system.

You're right: one can not run a Windows PE under Linux; that's only possible under Wine or a virtual machine. Vice versa, running an ELF file under Windows is the same problem; you'll need a virtual machine to do that.

But all things considered: Sol Assembler is a good tool and I hope that I can solve my problem for the Linux 64 bit platform.

Gunther

[frktons]

Hi Gunther.

I had a look at SolAsm website and read about the basic features of the
assembler.  Yes, it is a very interesting tool, and the OS he is developing
is a nice project as well.

A complete OS written in ASM and an assembler on it should give you the total
control of the machine and its potential.

There are a few of these projects around, like fasm/menuetOS, unfortunately
they require an high level of knowledge to be used in a profitable way.
Nonetheless I like these projects and admire the creators of these tools.

Frank

[Gunther]

Hi Frank,

you're right: SolAsm and SolOS are very interesting approaches. After solving the problem under Linux (64 bit) I think SolOS is worth a try inside a virtual machine. So we could experiment a bit.

Gunther