Why are people still using 32 bit ASM?

[RedSkeleton007]

The installation process of masm32v11r has been stuck for more than 5 minutes (see the attached screen shot). I'm concerned. Or am I supposed to take some kind of action?

[zedd151]

The installation process of masm32v11r has been stuck for more than 5 minutes (see the attached screen shot). I'm concerned. Or am I supposed to take some kind of action?

What are the specifics regarding the installation?

What O/S are you using, and how long initially did the installation take before it got 'stuck'?

Can you take a screen shot of Task Manager? (while the install is still stuck')??

[dedndave]

hmmmm - don't recall seeing this problem before
it might be related to your anti-virus program, not allowing the test program to run
(or deleting before it runs, or trying to delete it while it's running - lol)
see if you can assemble and run it "manually"

otherwise, see if you can assemble and run any simple program

the other thing - see if you can run the installer as Admin

[jj2007]

the other thing - see if you can run the installer as Admin

Good idea, but check this first:
- start \Masm32\qEditor.exe
- open \Masm32\examples\exampl01\generic\generic.asm (<----- you can copy and paste the path)
- use menu Project/Build all
- use menu Project/Run program

If that doesn't work, something went wrong, and you should indeed retry as Admin.

[RedSkeleton007]

What are the specifics regarding the installation?

What O/S are you using, and how long initially did the installation take before it got 'stuck'?

Can you take a screen shot of Task Manager? (while the install is still stuck')??

Just so everyone is on the same page, I'm trying to follow this:
http://www.webalice.it/jj2006/Masm32_Tips_Tricks_and_Traps.htm

I succeeded in fixing my previous post's problem, so lets just think of that as a false alarm for now. I'm now stuck on step 6. When I tried to run the MasmBasic application downloaded from:
http://masmforum.com/~masm32/board/index.php?topic=94

I now have a new problem (see the attached picture, and on a side note, how do you display images inline within posts?).
And when I extract that downloaded zip folder, it goes empty for some reason. Any help?

[hutch--]

Red,

Something that is important running XP is to ensure you run as admin as the restricted profile in XP excludes disk writes. You can also have problems with installed anti-virus applications as at least some of them will silently shut down applications that they don't understand properly. Sad to say not all AV programs are created equal and many of the freeware beta versions in popular use are badly written and make unsound assumptions. The Portable Executable specification (win32 EXE and DLL programs) are published by Microsoft and should be available in their complete capacity but some AV vendors don't fully undeerstand the specifications and restrict what can be done.

I use the standard Microsoft AV in my Win7 64 Ultimate version and it does not squark at anything so it is an issue with the junky end of AV scanners.

[RedSkeleton007]

I use the standard Microsoft AV in my Win7 64 Ultimate version and it does not squark at anything so it is an issue with the junky end of AV scanners.

My apologies. I forgot to mention that my OS is a 64-bit Windows 7 with an AMD processor. I would try right-clicking as administrator on the masmBasic application executable file from http://masmforum.com/~masm32/board/index.php?topic=94, but as far as I know, Windows 7 doesn't allow you to run any program in a zipped folder. And as I mentioned in my previous post, when I extract all, the extracted/unzipped, the folder is empty for some strange reason. I have no idea what to do about this.  :(  Also, I don't know the gory details of some of the crappier anti-virus programs, but I use Norton.

[jj2007]

And when I extract that downloaded zip folder, it goes empty for some reason. Any help?

Interesting. Since this morning (!), it happened three times to me that I tried to double-click on images inside zipped folders. That always worked, but now Windows (7-64) complains that there is no such file.

Can you unzip the setup exe to a folder, and run it from there? Your compressed size is 505kBytes, which is OK, so in principle it should be possible to extract it. If not, it's Norton, and it's no surprise. Try if there is a setting to exclude some folders (\masm32\...) from virus checking.

[rrr314159]

At webalice.it, all remarks in green refer to the MasmBasic package which is "extra". That's by jj2007, and provides a lot of very useful functions emulating the Basic language. You may, or may not, want to use it at this time. If you have trouble with it then, for the time being, skip it. masm32 package is the essential thing. Ollydebug is also extra; you'll definitely want it (or, some debugger), someday, but not necessarily now. Both these extras, you can download any time, as appropriate. You want to get that "Hello World" program going first, then you're on firm ground.

BTW, has it occurred to you that maybe G-d is out to get you? Think about it - that would explain a lot ...

[RedSkeleton007]

BTW, has it occurred to you that maybe G-d is out to get you? Think about it - that would explain a lot ...

Huh?! :icon_confused:

[satpro]

Don't know about the G-d thing -- can't do the math there, but I'll second the GoAsm recommendation.  No libraries needed, only the dlls.  There are not as many users (or macros and other aids) but it's a lightning-quick, no BS assembler with straight-up syntax that is actively developed and has a sub-forum here.  EasyCode works great with it, or you can write (and assemble) with something like Notepad++, which, by the way, is an awesome development environment.  I'll volunteer to help get you started as I have NPP all decked out for GoAsm.

What the others said --> you had better spend most of your time reading because assembly is a lot of great things, but it's definitely not something you'll learn through osmosis and the use of fancy IDEs.

Good luck which ever way you go.

[rrr314159]

BTW, has it occurred to you that maybe G-d is out to get you? Think about it - that would explain a lot ...

Huh?! :icon_confused:

- Hate to have to explain myself, but, the point was, you keep running into problems so the joke is, maybe you're cursed. Of course it's only a joke, these problems are very normal when trying to get a new prog or download up and running

- Jeez, some people have no sense of humor 

[zedd151]

BTW, has it occurred to you that maybe G-d is out to get you? Think about it - that would explain a lot ...

Huh?! :icon_confused:

...Jeez, some people have no sense of humor....

Nah, he just never solved crossword puzzles enough to be able to fill in the blank. lol   ^ triple nested quote

By the way (RedSkeleton...), did you ever solve your problem, or are you still having trouble?

[K_F]

when I extract all, the extracted/unzipped, the folder is empty for some strange reason. I have no idea what to do about this.  :(  Also, I don't know the gory details of some of the crappier anti-virus programs, but I use Norton.

Maybe Norton is not allowing you to extract the zip contents... try deleting (or disabling) Norton (it's always been considered a virus on it's own, since it converted to windows  ;) )

[dedndave]

my all-time favorite program: the norton removal tool - lol
guaranteed to speed up your computer

but - you have to have something in place
i use the HOSTS file, extensively - i have the URL's of most of the worst virus payload sites blocked (and many ads, too)

also, create a backup image of your boot drive
something screws you up - bang, 30 minutes later, you're on the air again
keep most of your personal data on another volume