Playing with MASM32 SDK ... in the phone

[HSE]

Hi all!

Take me some time to finally run MASM32 SDK in the phone.

That is installing a chopped Win XP in lBochs app (just some weeks ago I learned that was not named iBochs    so little fonts).

Obviously eveything is incredible slow and small, but is posible to build some little programs 

Regards, HSE.

[NoCforMe]

This is on Android? IOS? And how does that work, running a (Win32, right?) application on a phone OS? Do you use some kind of cross-compiler?

Not that I'll ever want to do this, but I am curious.

[HSE]

Hi NoC,

This is on Android?

Exactly

And how does that work, running a (Win32, right?) application on a phone OS?

This run Win32 OS inside Android. Then the application run in Win32 like usual.

Do you use some kind of cross-compiler?

Just ML and link (binaries in MASM32 SDK).

HSE

[NoCforMe]

And how does that work, running a (Win32, right?) application on a phone OS?

This run Win32 OS inside Android. Then the application run in Win32 like usual.

So you just load the Win32 program onto the phone and Android figures out what kind of app it is? or do you have to do something special to notify it what type of app it is?

[Greenhorn]

That is installing a chopped Win XP in lBochs app (just some weeks ago I learned that was not named iBochs    so little fonts).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lb.myapp.lbochs

[HSE]

So you just load the Win32 program onto the phone and Android figures out what kind of app it is? or do you have to do something special to notify it what type of app it is?

You have to save Win32 program in a directory accesed by emulator. Android just know it's a file.

[NoCforMe]

Ah, so there's an emulator. Is this something built into Android or do you have to install it?

[HSE]

Exactly. It's what shown Greenhorn.

[daydreamer]

Cool Héctor 
How big is your phone display?

Better suited for tablet?

[HSE]

Hi daydreamer!

How big is your phone display?

6.1 inch

Better suited for tablet?

My table was 7 inch. No much difference 

Never found original firmware to test if that is the problem. Anyway I was going to change the phone, then I bought a cheap phone with a good display.

Regards, HSE.

[daydreamer]

... Anyway I was going to change the phone, then I bought a cheap phone with a good display.

Ipad+ seem as big as modern pc monitor display
you can use a android text editor with .txt files to write code and it might be possible to run customized .bat file in Ibochs ?
customized with rename .txt to .asm files in the standard assemble/link .bat file ?
now I got curious testrun uasm inside ibochs timings vs inside PC might be good for measure performance difference ?
newest highend smartphone = it runs faster than cheap phone ?

[HSE]

you can use a android text editor with .txt files to write code and it might be possible to run customized .bat file in Ibochs ? customized with rename .txt to .asm files in the standard assemble/link .bat file ?

In Bochs there is no problem to share directories with Android (or with Windows in PC).

now I got curious testrun uasm inside ibochs timings vs inside PC might be good for measure performance difference ?
newest highend smartphone = it runs faster than cheap phone ?

Emulations in phone are incredible slow. DOS emulation run naturaly, but Win emulation requiere a lot of pacience

Also I have success setting an UEFI bios to run a 64 bit kernel   

A lot of posibilities, but always building programs in PC: assembling in the phone is slow, and chasing bugs with Olly is just crazy.

[daydreamer]

Also I have success setting an UEFI bios to run a 64 bit kernel   

A lot of posibilities, but always building programs in PC: assembling in the phone is slow, and chasing bugs with Olly is just crazy.

what about get lower than 6.14 ML that can run in DOS and assemble with that instead on the phone?

maybe its enough to write some pseudocode on smartphone texteditor if you get an idea for code and start work on .asm and .inc files at PC ?
I started that way on my tablet and I have slowly learned its dictionary asm mnemonics,registers,proc,endp,.IF,.elseif,.endif,switch,case

[HSE]

what about get lower than 6.14 ML that can run in DOS and assemble with that instead on the phone?

JWasm and Tasm work perfectly in DOS. For real mode is very easy. You have to load a memory extender for JWasm in protected mode. Japhet have made an stub that allow you to run 64 bit code in DOS (if emulated machine is 64 bits, obviously)

maybe its enough to write some pseudocode on smartphone texteditor if you get an idea for code and start work on .asm and .inc files at PC ?
I started that way on my tablet and I have slowly learned its dictionary asm mnemonics,registers,proc,endp,.IF,.elseif,.endif,switch,case

Why pseudocode? Just write the code.